Okay let me put my own two cents in here about Legend of Sanctuary. Mainly because I like to talk and I like to talk about shit I enjoy. And I enjoyed Legend of Sanctuary! I’m gonna be real honest— I came in with little to no hopes. I spent MONTHS of the movie’s trailers and character design sheets shitting all over it. And even now, I’m not totally happy with the movie as a whole. But for what it is? It’s a decent movie.
Let me explain. Legend of Sanctuary is best viewed not as a “remake” of Sanctuary arc. You can’t fit 60 episodes of plot into an hour and a half of movie successfully. Especially not when it’s so heavy on progression, like Sanctuary arc is. The best way to watch it is as it’s own unique thing. It’s part of the Saint Seiya universe, but it’s a unique entity. Think of it as like an AU or something. It’s a different dimension and all that. That’s why the characters are different, why the relationships are different, all of it. It’s not better or worse; just different.
My biggest gripe with Legend of Sanctuary will always, ALWAYS be the removal of literally all but one of the central female characters (and you couldn’t remove Saori because she’s fucking Athena). I love the women in Saint Seiya, that’s no secret. I think they need to be protected and celebrated. And there’s plenty of reasons for that! Marin, Shaina, Shunrei, Esmeralda and to lesser extents Miho and June are CRITICAL to the storytelling of the original Saint Seiya. Marin is Seiya’s teacher, Shaina is his first antagonist, both have roles that flesh out Seiya as a character. They also hold important roles when it comes to his development and motivation. Shunrei is VERY IMPORTANT to Shiryu’s character. The whole reason why he fucking found the power to defeat Deathmask was because he thought Shunrei had been killed. Shunrei also played a huge role by being his support. Esmeralda is the same way; her influence in Ikki’s life literally forms a significant part of his personality. Miho and June also share these “support” roles to Seiya and Shun, respectively. The women in Saint Seiya are very important. They are crucial to the character’s backstories, they help develop them, and they themselves play important roles in the grand scheme of the story. Marin was the first person to climb Star Hill and find Shion’s body, and discover that the current pope was an imposter. She protects Seiya more than once, allowing him to continue on in his journey. Shaina also plays these roles as both a hindrance, and a helper.
However, in LoS, they’re missing. Marin doesn’t train Seiya, you don’t even really get a sense of who trained these kids, you just know oh okay, they learned how to be saints, that’s it. Seiya’s interaction with Saori as children was thrown in, to make their connection later on more believable. I get it, like I said, it was an hour and a half movie; they weren’t going to get everything in. Even Shiryu only had a passing mention of Dohko, the fucking Libra saint, as his master. So I understand why Marin and Shaina were gone, the same with Shunrei. It would have been nearly impossible to include them for only a brief mention, or a five minute scene (such as with Hyoga and Camus) and to have them maintain their roles successfully. I’m upset that Shiryu’s determination to protect(/avenge) Shunrei is absent, replaced instead with a much cheaper “FOR ATHENA!!!” reasoning. I’m upset that Marin nearly killing herself to protect Seiya from assassins from Sanctuary is gone, showing her personality, and Seiya’s importance to her. However, I’m not upset about Milo being a girl.
Let me reiterate myself: this is NOT classic Saint Seiya. This is a totally different thing. If your complaint is that “they changed the canon”, you are blatantly ignoring LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE MOVIE. The only things they kept canon is Shiryu’s swishy hair and that Ikki and Shun are brothers. That’s pretty much it. And, again, that’s fine. I don’t mind Milo being a girl; I liked the glimpses of character we saw from her (mostly because I was seeing like, an AU Sonia and she’s my boo), and overall, she was pleasant to watch. The only thing I have to say against Fem!Milo is that changing the sex of one minor character does not replace 5 others. A girl Milo does not replace Shunrei and Marin and Shaina and Esmeralda and June. If that was their intention, it failed. If they just wanted some variety, then fine, I’m good with that. Nothing I can say will change it now, but I will say that I am fine with LoS Milo, but do not support the idea of replacing major women with a minor sex-swap.
Also, DM’s music number was great, everyone get over it.
for reals tho having made one of those golden cloth armor cosplays myself YOU CANNOT SIT IN THOSE THINGS THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO IN THE THEATER, STAND THE WHOLE TIME, FUCKING HELL WHO ARE THOSE RUDE PEOPLE ATTACKING THEM gods
Dude one year I made a fucking weird half wrap/half witchcraft dress that if I sat down I was certain my ass would DESTROY the fuck out of it and I would be holding the tattered remains as I ran all the way back to my hotel room, so I had to stand for five straight hours. I imagine armor is like that but only THREE HUNDRED TIMES WORSE. I also get uncomfortable with a sweater on in theaters, wearing full armor I would likely just die of heat stroke.
Urbance is literally about forbidden hetero romance in a land where everyone is gay. evil gay overlords stoppin the hetero. the designs are gorgeous but be aware of what you’re potentially funding. Not saying funding it is that black and white either -it’s nice to see a cast that is primarily black, for instance, but every time Urbance info goes around I end up seeing people get disappointed when they learn the premise.
Who was the one to propose: Like with Shiryu, Ikki has to do it because otherwise he gets weirdly uncomfortable and bails out. Though everyone knows that it was Hyoga who put a ring on it.
Who stressed more over wedding planning: Ikki. He wants it to be nice but not TOO nice. He doesn’t want to seem like he cares a whole bunch but he doesn’t want to seem like he doesn’t care at all. Hyoga just wants some cake man.
Who decorated the house: Hyoga, because otherwise they would have a mattress on the floor and the TV set up on a box.
Who is more organized: Ikki, only because Hyoga is a bit messy. No Camus did not manage to instill in him a super neat worth ethic.
Who initiates bedroom fun: BOTH, they are so ready to go with that.
Who suggested kids first: HYOGA. WANTS TEN MILLION BABIES.
Who’s more dominant: Ikki fo’ shoa
Who’s the cuddler: Hyoga will snuggle and nuzzle and wrap Ikki in a squid like death grip because HE LOVESSSSS HIIIIIM and Ikki is forced to endure it.
What’s their favorite non-sexual activity: Motorcycle rides into the sunset
Who kills the spiders: Ikki, the one who kills everything.
Who falls asleep first: Hyoga. Ikki takes a long time to fall asleep, and never before someone else.
Who is louder? They’re both on the same level I think?
Who is more experimental? Hyoga, but he has to approach it preeeetty carefully
Do they fuck or make love? Both! They have different moods LMFAO
Who is more likely to be caught masturbating? I’m sorry Hyoga but the weakest link is you
Who comes first? Hyoga. HE JUST GETS SO EXCITED.
Who is better at oral and who prefers it? Hyoga is good at it, mostly due to wanting to be a super awesome partner. I think they’re both into it equally? Maybe Hyoga more though.
Who usually initiates things? Ikki but Hyoga don’t complain.
Who is more sensitive? Hyoga, most def.
Who has the most patience? HYOGA have you seen what he puts up with
Who was the one to propose: Aiolos, totally. Like if it was up to Saga it might never happen because he has so many issues and hang ups, even though he SUPER WANTS TO.
Who stressed more over wedding planning: Saga. Aiolos was just like “whatever boo do what you want :D” while Saga was crying at every decision because IT WAS JUST SO WONDERFUUUUULLLLLLL HE’S SO UNDESERVING
Who decorated the house: Saga, again, because Aiolos is fine with whatever, he used to just have like, a plant on his table. Saga is the more interior desinger-y of the two.
Who is more organized: Saga. Aiolos basically puts things where they fit.
Who initiates bedroom fun: It’s half and half. Sometimes Aiolos, sometimes Saga (a lot of the times Black Saga).
Who suggested kids first: Aiolos and Saga got very emotional about it.
Who’s more dominant: BLACK SAGA
Who’s the cuddler: Aiolos is the more outward cuddler, he takes steps to cuddling, but both enjoy it.
What’s their favorite non-sexual activity: Just holding hands and going for walks together uvu
Who kills the spiders: Saga more often, just because Aiolos is mostly oblivious to them.
Who falls asleep first: Aiolos, because Saga always has trouble sleeping.
Who is louder? Louder talking: Aiolos. Louder laughter: Saga by like 200000000%
Who is more experimental? Saga is the one who usually suggests things, while Aiolos is the one always open to suggestion
Do they fuck or make love? MAKE LOOOOOVE. Except when it’s Black Saga then it’s outright fuckin’
Who is more likely to be caught masturbating? I-I…???????!!!!!!.
Who comes first? WHY IS THIS A QUESTION it’s Aiolos
Who is better at oral and who prefers it? Saga has to be the BEST AT EVERYTHING so him, and Aiolos? Prefers it more?.
Who usually initiates things? Saga, because otherwise Aiolos doesn’t, since he likes to let the other lead.
Who is more sensitive? Both are equally so? But maybe Aiolos.
Who was the one to propose: I think Ikki would have to be the one to do it in order for him to actually agree to it LMFAO but I also see Shiryu as the type who wants to settle down at some point so more likely mutual? Not exactly a proposal, more like “hey man let’s do this shit” “aight”
Who stressed more over wedding planning: Ikki because he’s kind of a perfectionist and needs to be in control. Shiryu was like “w/e”
Who decorated the house: The house is not decorated LMFAO they have the basic, bare bones essentials. They are two men who both go around without a shirt or pants on, respectively.
Who is more organized: Ikki, just slightly.
Who initiates bedroom fun: Ikki again, mostly because he needs to direct things.
Who suggested kids first: NO ONE OH GOD LMFAO THOSE TWO AS PARENTS
Who’s more dominant: Ikki pretty much dominates everyone sooo
Who’s the cuddler: Shiryu, the Almighty Spooner
What’s their favorite non-sexual activity: Totally working their sick pecs brah
Who kills the spiders: Ikki kills them, Shiryu lets them out of the house.
Who falls asleep first: Shiryu, who is a compulsive sleeper, if you give him five minutes he can have a good four minute nap.
Who is louder? S…hiryu? Just because Ikki’s usual outbursts are “tch” and “heh”.
Who is more experimental? Shiryu HAHA
Do they fuck or make love? They certainly have sex.
Who is more likely to be caught masturbating? alsdjflsakdfj NEITHER they don’t waste their time jerking it. If the have free time they’re training, not tugging the rope.
Who comes first? WOW I DID NOT READ THESE QUESTIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH
Who is better at oral and who prefers it? Shiryu is better at it but he also prefers it more.
Who usually initiates things? Ikki, once again. Due to the “likes to be in charge” thing.
Who is more sensitive? Look on the surface he looks calm and ready but Ikki is a bubbling brook of emotion.
I don’t know what’s happening I can’t stop laughing at the idea of Hyoga/Shiryu it’s… somehow… really hilarious omg
Okay despite the fact that they are the two that I clearly have quite strong feelings for other ships for (looking at u I/H and Shiryu/Shunrei) I’m not going to deny that I think that as some of the two odd ones out when Ikki is being 2 cool 4 skool and Seiya is hanging with his Best Boyfriend Shun, they should totally hook up. Just in general, both as buddies and maybe something else.
Also, part of that feeling may come from the fact that like at the end of nearly every fucking SS movie while Ikki and Shun have their bro moment and Seiya and Saori gaze off into the horizon, Hyoga will just stare longingly at Shiryu for a hug because no one else is offering.
why do you say that the LoS movie was gay? No one was gay in the movie not like in original StS (like Shun/Hyoga in libra house or Aphrodite/DEathmask)
HAHAHA okay, like, sure you are free to interpret things however you want! That’s cool man if you’re not into the gay shit I adore. But lbr buddy, SS is pretty gay in every incarnation. Like in LoS Saga had that moment of guilty conscious while thinking about that fine hot booty he lost when he up and killed his BF Aiolos. And like??? One of Hyoga’s very few lines was like “SHUN WERE IS IKKI. WHERE IS HE SHUN”. (Btw that black/red leather jacket/motorcycle combo??? Is not Hyoga’s style, but know whose style it is? Ikki’s. Just sayin’) Also Seiya and Shun are always super cute bfs and LoS was no different. They were hecka cute.
Again, this is just MY personal take and opinion, if you don’t think that way or whatever, that’s cool man! But if you think that LoS was any less intentionally/unintentionally gay subtexty than SS then honey you’ve got a big storm comin
DM was the best diddly dang part of Legend of Sanctuary what movie was everyone else watching??? If ya’ll don’t think that was the absolute spirit of DM perfectly personified then get out of my face. Fellow Cancer representative here, fight me
(Also: I can see why newer audiences might have had issues because it jumped around WAY too much, 15 seconds of a fight here, 15 seconds there, etc. For someone who’s seen the Sanctuary arc 45994936 times I was glad it was so fast paced and not laggy on boring stuff but damn I’d have been really confused with a lot if I was new. I was actually still confused about what house they were in half the time anyway LMAO.
Also: NO GEMINI TEMPLE??? Dropping the score 10 stars to 9 stars.
Also: the bae was on point but I’m real sad we didn’t get a full fledged badass fight with him namely with SHAKA… tbh I think they could have cut out evil Aiolia AS HOT AS HE WAS to fit that in bc we already got a lot of Aiolia already and considering he just Got Over being evil when Shaka was like Sup all anticlimactically, wouldn’t have been that great a loss
Also: Saga was perfectly OP and considering time constraints I think they also did just fine with him
Also: I need more Shura/femMilo arts…where they at…
Also: EVERYONE WAS SO FOINE
Also: Hyoga’s first full line being about Ikki: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°))